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Blast Off on another epic episode of

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hero paranormal podcast

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the hyper anomalous esoteric research

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organization podcast hero paranormal has

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one coming in hot for you today

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broadcasting from the base at la Madre

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Mountain just south of area 51. my name

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is Ryan the anomalous ambassador of the

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airwaves bringing you an enlightening

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episode today

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on today's podcast we have Dave from the

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generation Zed podcast

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one of my favorite content creators out

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there generation Zed podcast discusses

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all things politics science

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entertainment conspiracy

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even paranormal if it has to do with

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government UFOs science politics or

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conspiracy theories chances are Dave

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from generation Zed has covered it Dave

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is an extremely knowledgeable and humble

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host whose analysis and research

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very recently into Optical camouflage

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and dirds

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defense intelligence research documents

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as many of you know I recently tackled

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something similar the invisibility suit

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concept and spoke with the author Robert

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Guffey of the book camellio

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which was named from the project Camelio

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the synchronistic fact that we are both

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researching very similar topics around

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the same time got me extremely excited

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to discuss other conspiratorial topics

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with Dave because it's been a long time

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that I've wanted to talk to him not only

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do I highly value his research and

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opinions on these issues but he has a

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very good Grassroots organic method

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which speaks to me of his controlled

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observation and intuitive ability to cut

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right to the chase when it comes to many

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of these topics a brilliant podcaster

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pontificating from a parallel

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perspective symmetrically aligned with

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my own David Zed is a wonderful example

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of the evolution of the art of

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podcasting and is an essential voice on

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Humanity's right towards the final world

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order

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we are currently experiencing

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these are weird times

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reality of high strangeness phenomena

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coupled with our unscripted plunge into

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a very Grim Global possible end game

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makes this the time to know thyself and

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to speak with those who have similar

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personal philosophies and that makes

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this episode all the more purposeful and

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important I couldn't be more excited to

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welcome our guest Dave welcome to the

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hero paranormal podcast all right so for

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everyone on Mr Burns's side I know that

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he's already done an intro which I'm I

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haven't seen yet but I'm super

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appreciative of you regardless of

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introducing me to his audience but for

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my audience I would like to introduce

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the one and only Ryan Burns Ryan is the

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founder and owner of

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spacewolfresearch.com as well as

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heroparanormal.com not only that but

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Ryan also has a um a piece of property

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that touches uh Skinwalker Ranch if you

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will so without further Ado

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um I take it this is probably going to

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be a swap cast where this goes on both

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ends of our audience's shows

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respectively but Ryan brother thank you

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so very much for coming on thank you so

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much for for actually initiating the

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swap cast and how's everything on your

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side going can't complain just enjoying

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the journey as we plummet towards a

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final world order here everything is

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good right right well I if I may um if I

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may ask start with a couple questions I

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think on behalf of my audience they'd be

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very interested to to know so could you

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lay out for us your um I guess you could

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say your base setup on your property

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they're touching the Skinwalker Ranch

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um relative to not just what equipment

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you have there but if there has been

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um not just out of the ordinary but for

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lack of a better term paranormal that's

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kind of been like okay we can't explain

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that in any quantifiable data-driven way

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yeah it it has been quite the ride I

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um first came across the area back in

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the late 90s had an experience we can

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get into later that changed my life and

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I just sort of intuitively knew that I

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had to get to the bottom or at least try

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to figure out something uh from that

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experience and the reality of wanting to

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be in the area became very pressing and

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came to the Forefront of my mind and I

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ended up quitting my job renting my

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house and moving to the you in a basin

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full time to research full-time and

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while I was up there it was always my

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dream to have a place right next to what

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what I like to call the epicenter of

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activity however friends and family all

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warned against this and and I at first I

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operated a bed and breakfast known as

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the strawberry River bed and breakfast

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um which is a short drive from this

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epicenter But as time went on I moved

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towards the epicenter found some

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property that was adjacent uh to the

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South Boundary of what's commonly known

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as the Bigelow ranch or the Utah UFO

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Ranch and essentially then had a place

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right there at Ground Zero and have

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recently added some more acreage to that

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but the objective has always sort of

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been to figure out what it is we are

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exactly dealing with you know the real

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truth remains to be found and it's it's

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and it's interesting work because

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connecting the dots can be very trying

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at times when you have things in the sky

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things on the ground things seemingly

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underground

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tantalizing government connections

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extraterrestrial or at least non-human

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technologies that can be viewed and

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discovering that all these subjects sort

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merge together in this wild unseen realm

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from time to time and there could even

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be some some portal-like activity taking

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which is very tantalizing to me so

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things are not always what they appear

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but they do appear to all be happening

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in some of the same places

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would would you say Ryan uh has any if

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you could comment on this has anyone on

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or off the record from the military

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intelligence anyone from the academic

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Community reached out to you or have you

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reached out to them with respect to

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trying to understand more of perhaps

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certain phenomena or particular details

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that are reoccurring patterns on your

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piece of property or close to your

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property and things like this and if so

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if if you could say have you received

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any responses from such individuals

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indeed I have unfortunately I can't go

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into too much detail about those uh

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cooperations because of non-disclosure

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agreements but yes

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no problem

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are have you spoken to people who in

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your opinion would be in the position to

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know in a very serious data-driven

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manner at least have a better idea of

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what's going on there

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um than others yes I think that they're

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we're in a predicament because

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intentional and this is much of this has

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been Declassified due to the last regime

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Department of Defense but the truth is

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be revealed but at the moment

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it's it's quite the predicament because

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coming into it as a civilian or an

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outsider I'm not a career government

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well defense intelligence

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research types are very connected with

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those as you said in academics the

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and they have a lot of friends that just

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need to make one call those type of

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people that have a completely different

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reality than my reality so I I try to be

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objective and truthful when I'm

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discussing things with them

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and I think a lot of us have similar

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goals in mind it's just

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analyzing

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how to go about melding some of these

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relationships in a way where where it's

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right exactly so now with that said if I

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multi-pronged question but when you look

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for example at the way in which we see

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the um I guess you could say the

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the different effects that seem to be at

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least people have spoken on with

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respects to the property and and the

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ranch and things around the ranch and

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near the ranch do you find that this

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perhaps is a um

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living self-aware type of energy or

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conduit or it's more so a multitude of

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energies separate energies potential

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entities if you will and I ask this

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people like Mr uh Niels Bohr let's say

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respect to Academia there seemed to be

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um an understanding amongst a select few

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that what we now call quantum physics

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which seems to entail a lot of um

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intertwining in into what occurs on the

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ranch and the phenomena behind it is

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comprised of of I guess we could say

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things if you will or information

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structures that we relative to what we

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know in this reality would not consider

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real tangible physical you name it so do

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you find that there may be energies as

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far sourced back as to something

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non-tangible attempting to depict a

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tangible message

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way you asked it because it's exciting

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there does seem to be

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a reality of the high strangeness and

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the phenomena that

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seems to couple with our reality and

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it it does seem as if

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it's a problem of semantics many have

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called it different things it does

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appear

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that the area is somewhat alive so to

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speak or that it has an intelligence

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especially when it's dark and

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a brilliant way to put it is that it is

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non-corporeal for the most part however

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intelligent seems to be precognitive in

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that it can be aware of what the

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Observer is thinking or what path The

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The quote-unquote Observer and as is

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usually the case angles come into play

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quite heavily so you can have different

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individuals in different locations

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things or many times

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hard to describe so

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triangulation is super important when it

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comes to perspective from an observer's

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point of view and it does seem that one

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of the essential values of this

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precognitive sentient intelligence is to

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Madison manifest itself in a way that is

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tangible and emotionally palatable by

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The Observer so it's it's very very

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interesting

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when time and time again you end up with

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similar scenarios that really don't make

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sense a

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researcher named Frank Salisbury wrote a

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very interesting book called uh the Utah

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UFO display where he kind of goes into

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detail

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cutting right to the chase of this exact

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question and

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he he was a spiritual gentleman and he

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believed that

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this identified that in individuals and

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oftentimes the phenomena would

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display itself to observers

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through methods that they were familiar

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with so it may seem Angelic to some

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demonic to others all depending upon the

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synchronistic

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way it engages with the individual

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I I want to thank you for bringing it up

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and explaining it in that regard because

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I recently had a conversation with

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someone quite in my opinion intelligent

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and interesting and we touched upon this

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this idea of perhaps and I'm not saying

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this is the term but maybe one of a a

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plethora of terms to describe this pan

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biopsychicism this idea that for example

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if one views and I'm this is a

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coincidence here relative to the quantum

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field but if one word of you an event in

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as a circle or a ring you can then see

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the different points around that outline

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of the radius of that Circle to then be

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dragged to someone who's experiencing

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the circle in a line rather except that

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when they experience it in a line

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they're now seeing it in what we call

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time and chronological time orders so I

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find that if I thank you so much for for

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responding in that in that regard

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pertaining to that because this a whole

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idea that we discuss as well on our side

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of the show especially on our on our

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member side discussing the idea of um

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one could make the argument that

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wherever you look is a 90 degree right

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angle one cannot I guess you could say

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Escape that if you will now I'm not

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trying to deliberately allude to the

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whole simulation concept but it seems as

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though that whatever this energy is

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including the one at your property or

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close to your property

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um seems to harness that as well do you

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do you find that to be the case this

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idea of harnessing pan biopsychicism to

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cater to the information structure of a

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particular Sovereign you could say

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Spiritual Beings such as us that then

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interprets those information structures

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accordingly based on that particular

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individual's experience so different you

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could say um modalities of of

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interpretation

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yeah I think that the observer effect in

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quantum mechanics if we're looking at

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this quantumly is super important and to

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give you a quick uh

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example on a recent trip to the property

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I was at space Wolf research and I

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decided to take my mother which was

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probably putting my guard down a little

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too much and we had a great time the

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reality of what happened there was a lot

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of strange events that took place a lot

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of trickery if you want to call it that

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or confusing

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extravagant displays of confusion and uh

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interest if I could clarify in an

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optical sense yes both Optical and

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physical so uh optically the most

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pronounced display optically was one

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evening

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um

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I was awakened by what sounded like the

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car doors outside of the uh base camp

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closing and opening and I thought well

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maybe maybe this has happened before so

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it's not it you know it kind of uses the

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same Playbook from time to time this

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this

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trickster-like mentality just trying to

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engage I believe is what the phenomena

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is doing get your attention and uh it

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sounded like my car doors were opening

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and closing so I got up I put my boots

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on I went to the door I looked outside

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and I saw what looked like swirling

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lights going around the car so I opened

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the door I went outside my mom was just

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mustering at this moment getting up and

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I said it it sounds like there's might

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be some people out here going around my

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vehicle I'm just going out to check

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and she uh slowly got up I was I went

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outside was very quiet I heard

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absolutely nothing no Footprints no

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footsteps nothing no sounds whatsoever

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there were no lights going around the

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car and then a moment later there was a

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beam coming from

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an undescript Point again using the

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angular formation of another structure a

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beam coming down around this structure

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and uh a circular

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place it was hitting the ground that

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must have been oh I don't know six to

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eight feet wide and I started to go

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towards this beam of light because I

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thought maybe it's a flashlight maybe

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they're just around this other structure

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when I went out near the beam it turned

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off so the kind of that enticing you in

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you know bringing you in like a

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fisherman

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no it keeps casting these light displays

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bringing you

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closer to it further from your secure

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location and I I

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I was very intrigued I went out I stood

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where the beam was and I was looking

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where the light could have manifested

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from and again the light came back and

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at this time it was around another angle

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of the same structure again using breaks

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in the environment or the surroundings

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to hide itself yet display itself just

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inches away from you in the form of

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light and very Travis Walton you know

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like the cover of Fire in the Sky this

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beam coming from an undescript point a

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place you could not see yet it's Landing

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right next to you and so I I finally

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just stood right in the beam and I

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noticed quickly that I could not cast a

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shadow on the ground when I was standing

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in this Beam by now my mother had woken

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up fully she had gone out looked at the

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car she initially thought I was in the

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vehicle because there were strange

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lights coming on on the dash she said

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lights that were not the color of any of

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the equipment in the vehicle and as she

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thought I was in the vehicle she got

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right up close to it and realized

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looking through the wind windows that I

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was not in the vehicle and that's when

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she realized that I was over in the beam

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of light to the right which she had not

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noticed before and when she saw me she

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said oh my gosh Ryan and I said yeah

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come over here this is really cool get

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in here with me this is check this out I

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can't cast a shadow and she came over

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and I showed her just how ironic it was

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that this beam was so bright you could

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not cast a shadow on the ground no

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matter how low to the ground you got

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there was the perspective of the light

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seemed to come from an undescript point

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of origin so it again turned on and off

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a few times while we were out there and

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you could never quite see where it was

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coming from but it would angle out and

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then land next to you so just very

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strange from a perspective point of view

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so that that would be from a visual

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perspective probably the most dynamic

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display visually

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find any speaking to speaking to people

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again I know you obviously can't get

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into it totally understand but speaking

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to people more so in this Regard in

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Academia do you find there to be with

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respect to Optics and um perception and

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physics particularly at the quantum

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level or in the quantum field there to

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be more prominence or significance

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pertaining to that shadow phenomena

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other than it just being oh look look um

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uh you know look mom or look friends or

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what have you I I look there's no shadow

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in this particular area you see what I'm

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saying yes it it's

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very the the light seems to be very uh

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influential and tactical uh the way that

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it is

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interacting with the Observer uh it can

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not be for example

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um documented we tried to take pictures

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with

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very technologically advanced cameras we

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had there was no Gathering Delight on

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film on camera no digital means yet it

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was bright it was very visible uh

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compared to the dark background

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it seemed controlled

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okay so with that said with would you go

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as far and please tell me if I'm taking

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too much of a leap here would you go as

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far as to say that in the vicinity and

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in within the context of the moment of

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you being there whether with your

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friends or with your mother you name it

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the the energy that was there whether

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coming from One Source multiple you name

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it whether it's a local or non-local

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Source did you find that this energy in

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one form or another

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whether evidential or not seemed to

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deliberately avoid those cameras in that

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equipment

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absolutely yes it does seem as if it is

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some sort of alien at least from a human

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perspective artificial intelligence so

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it it almost algorithm algorithmically

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does a wonderful job of avoiding

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particular uh cameras

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these cameras that were actually on the

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structure where we were doing all this

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we checked them afterwards and we could

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see ourselves we could see slight

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changes in the backgrounds the light

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however was invisible and each time that

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this angular cone of light or beam of

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light would manifest and come from this

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point that could not be seen because it

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was always around an angle always around

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a corner and it it just always seemed to

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do so in an alternative way where it

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would not be captured by the cameras so

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yeah the real truth remains it's hard to

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it's it's hard to catch almost as if

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it's using what's called um the harness

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excuse me the harnessing of angular

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momentum I believe as it's been called

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in uh in the academic field of relative

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to to you could say um uh the Cooper

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pairs lattice ion things and things like

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this having to do with them with I guess

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you could say the nature of the reality

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were within which then takes me to my

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next question and final question

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um

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with respects to

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uh I believe it's I'm not sure if he was

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a philosopher or anyways vygotsky or

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vygotsky forgive me to the audience on

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both uh Ryan's side of mind if I'm

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butchering the gentleman's name but this

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this idea that Mr vygotsky coined the

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zone of proximal development where we

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have three rings concentric circles the

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center smallest ring is what the learner

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can do on their own the middle ring is

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what the learner can do but with the

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external assistance and the third

557
00:25:00,950 --> 00:24:58,020
outermost ring is what the learner

558
00:25:02,990 --> 00:25:00,960
cannot do even with assistance do you

559
00:25:06,230 --> 00:25:03,000
find that in your personal experiences

560
00:25:08,270 --> 00:25:06,240
uh Ryan from what you've researched

561
00:25:10,549 --> 00:25:08,280
experienced and all of that that this

562
00:25:13,909 --> 00:25:10,559
phenomena at least the one within the

563
00:25:15,890 --> 00:25:13,919
context of of your studies and research

564
00:25:19,909 --> 00:25:15,900
how it sort of resides in that middle

565
00:25:22,310 --> 00:25:19,919
ring if you will yeah I think it's

566
00:25:24,230 --> 00:25:22,320
we start entering

567
00:25:27,769 --> 00:25:24,240
theoretical

568
00:25:30,350 --> 00:25:27,779
physics and quantum mechanics at some

569
00:25:33,169 --> 00:25:30,360
point because from the observational

570
00:25:36,830 --> 00:25:33,179
perspective as we we can only see so

571
00:25:39,470 --> 00:25:36,840
much of the spectrum right and as an

572
00:25:41,930 --> 00:25:39,480
observer whenever I'm experimenting with

573
00:25:44,570 --> 00:25:41,940
this and someone else is watching it

574
00:25:48,370 --> 00:25:44,580
seems like the frame of reference from

575
00:25:51,110 --> 00:25:48,380
one Observer is not enough to

576
00:25:53,330 --> 00:25:51,120
grasp what's taking place you really

577
00:25:56,870 --> 00:25:53,340
need at least two or three observers to

578
00:25:59,269 --> 00:25:56,880
be witnessing the phenomenon and it it

579
00:26:01,490 --> 00:25:59,279
brings me back to um you know why

580
00:26:04,630 --> 00:26:01,500
photons behave differently when observed

581
00:26:07,310 --> 00:26:04,640
very similar to the double slit

582
00:26:10,669 --> 00:26:07,320
experiment phenomenon where

583
00:26:13,070 --> 00:26:10,679
I highly value a lot of research out

584
00:26:16,310 --> 00:26:13,080
there because there do seem to be

585
00:26:19,250 --> 00:26:16,320
essential energies that

586
00:26:20,450 --> 00:26:19,260
we are unaware or at least from our

587
00:26:24,710 --> 00:26:20,460
human

588
00:26:27,230 --> 00:26:24,720
range of vision cannot see completely so

589
00:26:31,070 --> 00:26:27,240
the more eyes you have on the prize the

590
00:26:36,830 --> 00:26:33,830
I I couldn't agree with you more

591
00:26:39,470 --> 00:26:36,840
um almost as if the um the equipment we

592
00:26:41,269 --> 00:26:39,480
have and I'm just speculating here

593
00:26:42,890 --> 00:26:41,279
and I don't mean to sound conspiratorial

594
00:26:44,450 --> 00:26:42,900
but almost as if the equipment we have

595
00:26:47,390 --> 00:26:44,460
on a consumer level perhaps even

596
00:26:49,430 --> 00:26:47,400
commercial has been designed so that it

597
00:26:52,250 --> 00:26:49,440
does not capture a particular perhaps

598
00:26:55,310 --> 00:26:52,260
part of a hypothetical Spectrum let's

599
00:26:58,310 --> 00:26:55,320
say that perhaps say maybe military or

600
00:27:00,169 --> 00:26:58,320
other devices could in fact pick up if

601
00:27:03,169 --> 00:27:00,179
you will that's a really good point

602
00:27:06,350 --> 00:27:03,179
because uh we I was noticing that with

603
00:27:09,409 --> 00:27:06,360
even the highest grade thermal optics we

604
00:27:12,529 --> 00:27:09,419
were having trouble uh capturing certain

605
00:27:16,310 --> 00:27:12,539
possible phenomena and when I had

606
00:27:19,850 --> 00:27:16,320
someone in Florida actually build to the

607
00:27:21,710 --> 00:27:19,860
specs of the uh what was used by the

608
00:27:24,470 --> 00:27:21,720
National Institute of Discovery Sciences

609
00:27:28,750 --> 00:27:24,480
back in the day and they were commonly

610
00:27:33,049 --> 00:27:28,760
known as nids they had very very

611
00:27:34,970 --> 00:27:33,059
exact hurts that they would uh use as

612
00:27:38,330 --> 00:27:34,980
far as a wavelength on these thermal

613
00:27:41,210 --> 00:27:38,340
cameras that they were using and when

614
00:27:44,450 --> 00:27:41,220
this basically kind of going backwards

615
00:27:46,430 --> 00:27:44,460
in technology but trying to keep that

616
00:27:49,370 --> 00:27:46,440
you know infinite focus and things like

617
00:27:51,470 --> 00:27:49,380
of that nature when I commissioned a

618
00:27:54,830 --> 00:27:51,480
unit be built out of this guy's garage

619
00:27:56,990 --> 00:27:54,840
basically uh he's a genius but when he

620
00:27:58,850 --> 00:27:57,000
did this it aligned with what we thought

621
00:28:00,350 --> 00:27:58,860
we were seeing and we were able to

622
00:28:02,269 --> 00:28:00,360
actually see what we thought we were

623
00:28:04,669 --> 00:28:02,279
seeing so I I think you have a point

624
00:28:07,610 --> 00:28:04,679
when it comes to technology

625
00:28:10,130 --> 00:28:07,620
got you got you well brother I wanted on

626
00:28:11,450 --> 00:28:10,140
for my end of things um I mean we can

627
00:28:13,549 --> 00:28:11,460
keep going and going and going but I

628
00:28:15,769 --> 00:28:13,559
just want to thank you so much for

629
00:28:17,450 --> 00:28:15,779
um for for answering these questions

630
00:28:18,950 --> 00:28:17,460
I've been meaning to ask you them for

631
00:28:20,870 --> 00:28:18,960
for months at this point now and when

632
00:28:22,490 --> 00:28:20,880
you reached out saying that uh you

633
00:28:24,529 --> 00:28:22,500
wanted to have this this conversation

634
00:28:25,909 --> 00:28:24,539
this this swap cast I was extremely

635
00:28:27,649 --> 00:28:25,919
excited

636
00:28:29,029 --> 00:28:27,659
um and yeah man I'm not sure if there's

637
00:28:32,210 --> 00:28:29,039
anything on your end you wanted to bring

638
00:28:33,470 --> 00:28:32,220
up if if so and or if not no problem but

639
00:28:36,110 --> 00:28:33,480
um for the audience we're we're

640
00:28:37,850 --> 00:28:36,120
basically free flowing it and um so far

641
00:28:40,250 --> 00:28:37,860
I think it's been a great a great time

642
00:28:41,750 --> 00:28:40,260
yeah um I got a couple of questions of

643
00:28:44,390 --> 00:28:41,760
things that have just been bothering me

644
00:28:46,490 --> 00:28:44,400
a little bit and I don't know if you've

645
00:28:48,590 --> 00:28:46,500
looked into them one is it's a little

646
00:28:51,289 --> 00:28:48,600
dated at this point but the uh Georgia

647
00:28:53,810 --> 00:28:51,299
Guidestones and their Demolition and or

648
00:28:54,769 --> 00:28:53,820
Divine demolition

649
00:28:57,230 --> 00:28:54,779
um I know that you've probably

650
00:28:59,090 --> 00:28:57,240
researched that a bit and have uh some

651
00:29:01,970 --> 00:28:59,100
functional views of that what are your

652
00:29:05,029 --> 00:29:01,980
thoughts of what may have taken place

653
00:29:06,529 --> 00:29:05,039
with the um the establishment of it or

654
00:29:08,149 --> 00:29:06,539
the destruction of it yeah the

655
00:29:10,430 --> 00:29:08,159
destruction I think the establishment's

656
00:29:12,169 --> 00:29:10,440
amazing you know obviously that location

657
00:29:14,930 --> 00:29:12,179
in Georgia

658
00:29:16,430 --> 00:29:14,940
um and it's secret secrecy and how it's

659
00:29:19,190 --> 00:29:16,440
been uh

660
00:29:21,590 --> 00:29:19,200
well its ability to withstand at least I

661
00:29:23,870 --> 00:29:21,600
believe it was created in 1980 I believe

662
00:29:26,330 --> 00:29:23,880
so it stood the test of time at least

663
00:29:28,610 --> 00:29:26,340
for a little bit of time but it becomes

664
00:29:31,730 --> 00:29:28,620
very strange with the destruction of it

665
00:29:36,370 --> 00:29:31,740
and that peculiarly in in my opinion

666
00:29:39,289 --> 00:29:36,380
it's difficult to know whether this was

667
00:29:41,750 --> 00:29:39,299
destroyed whether it was an act of

668
00:29:43,630 --> 00:29:41,760
Divine Providence or whether it was

669
00:29:46,330 --> 00:29:43,640
actually the ones who created it

670
00:29:49,730 --> 00:29:46,340
essentially quieting that message

671
00:29:52,250 --> 00:29:49,740
because of this possible

672
00:29:54,889 --> 00:29:52,260
um armageddon-like situation that we may

673
00:29:56,810 --> 00:29:54,899
be essentially delving into with a

674
00:29:59,450 --> 00:29:56,820
global reset

675
00:30:01,310 --> 00:29:59,460
sure absolutely so um on my end of

676
00:30:03,950 --> 00:30:01,320
things I've I've been very focused

677
00:30:06,529 --> 00:30:03,960
lately on the I guess you could say the

678
00:30:08,510 --> 00:30:06,539
uh the physics the the engineering the

679
00:30:10,610 --> 00:30:08,520
ontological philosophical perspectives

680
00:30:12,289 --> 00:30:10,620
of of the phenomena overall and what

681
00:30:14,330 --> 00:30:12,299
that entails and what that could entail

682
00:30:15,889 --> 00:30:14,340
and mean and all of that and one thing

683
00:30:17,389 --> 00:30:15,899
that I found is that my research has

684
00:30:19,310 --> 00:30:17,399
always LED and this is just I could be

685
00:30:21,649 --> 00:30:19,320
wrong for for Ryan's audience just my

686
00:30:23,510 --> 00:30:21,659
personal uh perspective my research has

687
00:30:25,310 --> 00:30:23,520
always led me back to this idea of what

688
00:30:27,889 --> 00:30:25,320
I brought up earlier about Niels Bohr

689
00:30:30,649 --> 00:30:27,899
discussing that what we call quantum

690
00:30:32,690 --> 00:30:30,659
physics is is in fact comprised of

691
00:30:35,210 --> 00:30:32,700
things that we would consider not to be

692
00:30:37,789 --> 00:30:35,220
real per se in a tangible sense and the

693
00:30:38,510 --> 00:30:37,799
reason I bring that up is because this

694
00:30:41,450 --> 00:30:38,520
um

695
00:30:43,310 --> 00:30:41,460
it seems to keep resorting back to and I

696
00:30:45,769 --> 00:30:43,320
I hate to throw around the word Quantum

697
00:30:47,149 --> 00:30:45,779
so often without describing what it you

698
00:30:48,529 --> 00:30:47,159
know what it means and all of that sort

699
00:30:50,090 --> 00:30:48,539
of like how people say we have to raise

700
00:30:52,190 --> 00:30:50,100
our Consciousness it's like okay well

701
00:30:53,930 --> 00:30:52,200
that only takes you so far until it's

702
00:30:56,090 --> 00:30:53,940
like what's the next step if you will so

703
00:30:57,649 --> 00:30:56,100
the reason I bring all this up is

704
00:30:59,210 --> 00:30:57,659
because when I look at for example the

705
00:31:01,909 --> 00:30:59,220
Georgia Guidestones and I look for

706
00:31:03,470 --> 00:31:01,919
example in Academia with the um the the

707
00:31:06,830 --> 00:31:03,480
academic papers that I've been looking

708
00:31:09,590 --> 00:31:06,840
into and things like this uh if

709
00:31:11,930 --> 00:31:09,600
if one takes an academic paper in

710
00:31:13,549 --> 00:31:11,940
chemistry Optics physics you name it and

711
00:31:15,830 --> 00:31:13,559
one word to say okay well if we got a

712
00:31:18,289 --> 00:31:15,840
team of Engineers under an NDA in a

713
00:31:20,990 --> 00:31:18,299
laboratory or a warehouse rather to

714
00:31:23,389 --> 00:31:21,000
scale up in a fractal sense which is

715
00:31:25,669 --> 00:31:23,399
quantum physics seems to entail What

716
00:31:28,070 --> 00:31:25,679
that particular academic paper described

717
00:31:30,470 --> 00:31:28,080
would we have a situation where we would

718
00:31:32,690 --> 00:31:30,480
have a technology that could in fact do

719
00:31:34,490 --> 00:31:32,700
destroy the Georgia Guidestones in the

720
00:31:37,730 --> 00:31:34,500
sense of not just the direct energy

721
00:31:40,370 --> 00:31:37,740
weapon whether it was a bomb or a DW is

722
00:31:43,730 --> 00:31:40,380
is not really my concern but ultimately

723
00:31:45,590 --> 00:31:43,740
who is behind the control room calling

724
00:31:47,269 --> 00:31:45,600
the shots if you will within that

725
00:31:49,789 --> 00:31:47,279
particular moment that the Guidestones

726
00:31:52,310 --> 00:31:49,799
got destroyed and why now my whole thing

727
00:31:55,430 --> 00:31:52,320
is okay if we

728
00:31:57,049 --> 00:31:55,440
for a moment like indeed sorry if we

729
00:31:58,549 --> 00:31:57,059
make the connection to this idea that

730
00:31:59,810 --> 00:31:58,559
there are different um

731
00:32:01,909 --> 00:31:59,820
uh

732
00:32:03,649 --> 00:32:01,919
or rather the ideological subscription

733
00:32:05,690 --> 00:32:03,659
that there are different groups if you

734
00:32:07,130 --> 00:32:05,700
will sort of like a mafia family but

735
00:32:08,630 --> 00:32:07,140
within that family there are different

736
00:32:11,330 --> 00:32:08,640
groups with different interests

737
00:32:13,310 --> 00:32:11,340
friendships opportunists you name it it

738
00:32:15,430 --> 00:32:13,320
then makes me think okay who or what has

739
00:32:18,289 --> 00:32:15,440
gone behind the control room to a

740
00:32:21,529 --> 00:32:18,299
establish the Guidestones in the 80s and

741
00:32:24,110 --> 00:32:21,539
and or be to destroy them and for what

742
00:32:25,730 --> 00:32:24,120
purpose to what extent I'm I'm of the

743
00:32:27,529 --> 00:32:25,740
humble opinion that what we're seeing

744
00:32:30,110 --> 00:32:27,539
with respect to the destruction of not

745
00:32:32,389 --> 00:32:30,120
just the Guidestones but even certain um

746
00:32:33,830 --> 00:32:32,399
we could say weather events and all that

747
00:32:41,690 --> 00:32:33,840
may

748
00:32:43,789 --> 00:32:41,700
question for me becomes then if if the

749
00:32:45,889 --> 00:32:43,799
case to what extent behind the scenes

750
00:32:46,610 --> 00:32:45,899
does that technology allow

751
00:32:48,470 --> 00:32:46,620
um

752
00:32:50,990 --> 00:32:48,480
the the enablement of these different

753
00:32:53,330 --> 00:32:51,000
factions to gain and lose power so in

754
00:32:56,210 --> 00:32:53,340
plain English I think what we're seeing

755
00:32:58,430 --> 00:32:56,220
potentially through actions and things

756
00:33:00,830 --> 00:32:58,440
like and perhaps even the Georgia

757
00:33:02,810 --> 00:33:00,840
Guidestones being destroyed for better

758
00:33:05,389 --> 00:33:02,820
or worse I'm not sure I think what we're

759
00:33:07,730 --> 00:33:05,399
witnessing is a strategic chess game

760
00:33:09,590 --> 00:33:07,740
behind the scenes and I I could be very

761
00:33:11,149 --> 00:33:09,600
wrong but that's where my mind goes when

762
00:33:14,630 --> 00:33:11,159
I look at something like that

763
00:33:16,490 --> 00:33:14,640
yeah it it seems like if there is some

764
00:33:18,789 --> 00:33:16,500
sort of uh Slaughter of the Innocence

765
00:33:20,930 --> 00:33:18,799
and we do have an Armageddon type

766
00:33:23,330 --> 00:33:20,940
scenario which I guess the Georgia

767
00:33:26,450 --> 00:33:23,340
Guidestones were theoretically placed to

768
00:33:30,289 --> 00:33:26,460
help people afterwards uh to you know

769
00:33:33,289 --> 00:33:30,299
these are a good set of rules to rebuild

770
00:33:36,110 --> 00:33:33,299
Society those people would obviously

771
00:33:39,169 --> 00:33:36,120
wonder who put this up and they must be

772
00:33:41,029 --> 00:33:39,179
too blamed for what happened however if

773
00:33:44,149 --> 00:33:41,039
it's not there I mean what a brilliant

774
00:33:47,330 --> 00:33:44,159
plan to get rid of it of course and I

775
00:33:49,669 --> 00:33:47,340
right it's an interesting ideology so I

776
00:33:51,110 --> 00:33:49,679
I like that and I mean I kind of liked

777
00:33:52,669 --> 00:33:51,120
them I thought they were cool and

778
00:33:54,830 --> 00:33:52,679
interesting and I wanted to visit them

779
00:33:57,049 --> 00:33:54,840
and and unfortunately there's something

780
00:33:59,389 --> 00:33:57,059
that is no longer there so that's kind

781
00:34:01,730 --> 00:33:59,399
of an example of the evolution of how

782
00:34:03,649 --> 00:34:01,740
these conspiracy theories get more

783
00:34:06,350 --> 00:34:03,659
interesting over time sometimes with

784
00:34:08,510 --> 00:34:06,360
random events did you hear about this

785
00:34:11,089 --> 00:34:08,520
gentleman oh I can never remember his

786
00:34:14,570 --> 00:34:11,099
name he's actually a famous a famous guy

787
00:34:16,609 --> 00:34:14,580
AI who was under a pseudonym saying that

788
00:34:18,530 --> 00:34:16,619
oh if I could destroy these I would and

789
00:34:20,450 --> 00:34:18,540
when they found out who he was and

790
00:34:22,190 --> 00:34:20,460
they've I think it was Mick I believe

791
00:34:23,450 --> 00:34:22,200
his name was anyway they found the guy

792
00:34:25,010 --> 00:34:23,460
and he was like oh well I didn't mean

793
00:34:26,990 --> 00:34:25,020
that way I would never destroy them that

794
00:34:29,270 --> 00:34:27,000
way so that's interesting

795
00:34:31,250 --> 00:34:29,280
um the other quick uh something that

796
00:34:33,589 --> 00:34:31,260
actually just came on my radar today

797
00:34:35,950 --> 00:34:33,599
about a possible tunnel system and

798
00:34:39,470 --> 00:34:35,960
maglev technology taking place

799
00:34:41,810 --> 00:34:39,480
underground I'm and I know we both

800
00:34:43,669 --> 00:34:41,820
recently tackled the invisibility suit

801
00:34:45,889 --> 00:34:43,679
concept which is very strange and

802
00:34:48,349 --> 00:34:45,899
synchronistic and I I thought that was

803
00:34:51,290 --> 00:34:48,359
interesting but to what lengths do you

804
00:34:55,190 --> 00:34:51,300
think some of these projects go to hide

805
00:34:58,010 --> 00:34:55,200
you know their reality

806
00:35:00,230 --> 00:34:58,020
oh I think I think

807
00:35:02,870 --> 00:35:00,240
I think it depends on the context of of

808
00:35:05,030 --> 00:35:02,880
the interest of that given project I

809
00:35:06,950 --> 00:35:05,040
think irregardless there is absolutely

810
00:35:09,710 --> 00:35:06,960
not just a hidden but obfusational

811
00:35:11,510 --> 00:35:09,720
component whether it's in the the on the

812
00:35:14,510 --> 00:35:11,520
front end of things or

813
00:35:16,730 --> 00:35:14,520
I mean look let's face it man I think

814
00:35:18,670 --> 00:35:16,740
we can go as as far as to say that we

815
00:35:22,550 --> 00:35:18,680
see for example certain administrations

816
00:35:24,170 --> 00:35:22,560
albeit not recently well I'm going to

817
00:35:25,910 --> 00:35:24,180
leave modern politics out of it for now

818
00:35:27,470 --> 00:35:25,920
because of the so much tension and what

819
00:35:29,750 --> 00:35:27,480
have you but we see on you know the Iran

820
00:35:31,910 --> 00:35:29,760
Contra situation under the Reagan Era uh

821
00:35:33,589 --> 00:35:31,920
Reagan administration we see that for

822
00:35:35,690 --> 00:35:33,599
example there's been hyper speculation

823
00:35:38,210 --> 00:35:35,700
in all of this that a lot of that that

824
00:35:40,010 --> 00:35:38,220
dirty money if you will perhaps went to

825
00:35:41,990 --> 00:35:40,020
the Department of Defense which just so

826
00:35:44,030 --> 00:35:42,000
happens to have a major accounting ish

827
00:35:46,490 --> 00:35:44,040
issue I say that with air quotes which

828
00:35:49,550 --> 00:35:46,500
may in fact be what has led to the um

829
00:35:52,849 --> 00:35:49,560
you could say the now coined Legacy

830
00:35:55,790 --> 00:35:52,859
program efforts so I think ultimately

831
00:35:57,890 --> 00:35:55,800
there's always a bit of um and I don't I

832
00:35:59,750 --> 00:35:57,900
want to point out as a friend a good

833
00:36:00,970 --> 00:35:59,760
friend once said to me a couple months

834
00:36:03,650 --> 00:36:00,980
back there's a difference between

835
00:36:05,930 --> 00:36:03,660
justification and rationalization I

836
00:36:07,730 --> 00:36:05,940
don't mean to justify the actions here

837
00:36:09,410 --> 00:36:07,740
in in the sense of okay well you know

838
00:36:10,790 --> 00:36:09,420
it's all about perspective so it's just

839
00:36:13,370 --> 00:36:10,800
how you view it

840
00:36:15,829 --> 00:36:13,380
um and and what I mean by that is one

841
00:36:18,650 --> 00:36:15,839
could say well there's using um

842
00:36:20,870 --> 00:36:18,660
allegedly Dirty Money make of that as

843
00:36:23,450 --> 00:36:20,880
you will to fund these programs does

844
00:36:25,430 --> 00:36:23,460
that make the program itself dirty evil

845
00:36:28,130 --> 00:36:25,440
wrong you name it and is does that make

846
00:36:30,109 --> 00:36:28,140
the program itself dirty evil wrong on

847
00:36:32,569 --> 00:36:30,119
another level uh because it's not being

848
00:36:34,550 --> 00:36:32,579
disclosed to the taxpayer

849
00:36:37,190 --> 00:36:34,560
I don't claim to have the answers man

850
00:36:40,069 --> 00:36:37,200
but I think unfortunately I think these

851
00:36:44,390 --> 00:36:40,079
programs have still do and Contin in

852
00:36:46,569 --> 00:36:44,400
these forms of um you could say uh human

853
00:36:48,730 --> 00:36:46,579
manipulation whether on a social level

854
00:36:51,050 --> 00:36:48,740
anthropological level business level

855
00:36:53,089 --> 00:36:51,060
psychological level I think they have

856
00:36:54,050 --> 00:36:53,099
and still continue to operate to this

857
00:36:56,630 --> 00:36:54,060
day

858
00:36:58,250 --> 00:36:56,640
um in in in that regard so hopefully

859
00:37:01,010 --> 00:36:58,260
that that answers your question I

860
00:37:04,370 --> 00:37:01,020
ultimately I would say

861
00:37:07,130 --> 00:37:04,380
in short yes there's too much um for me

862
00:37:09,470 --> 00:37:07,140
it's not so much the the evidence of

863
00:37:12,770 --> 00:37:09,480
apps of absence but the deliver the

864
00:37:16,730 --> 00:37:14,569
for me sorry it's not the absence of

865
00:37:20,210 --> 00:37:16,740
evidence it's the deliberate evidence of

866
00:37:22,910 --> 00:37:20,220
what seems to be obfusational absence

867
00:37:24,829 --> 00:37:22,920
which shows at least tells me and I'm

868
00:37:26,930 --> 00:37:24,839
only one person interpreting it in one

869
00:37:28,970 --> 00:37:26,940
angle or in one regard or in one way but

870
00:37:31,069 --> 00:37:28,980
it tells me that there's a lot more

871
00:37:35,270 --> 00:37:31,079
going on there because that that whole

872
00:37:38,710 --> 00:37:35,280
effort of even attempting to initiate a

873
00:37:40,790 --> 00:37:38,720
a cover-up psyop obfuscational

874
00:37:42,650 --> 00:37:40,800
statement to the public you name it

875
00:37:44,630 --> 00:37:42,660
would not have even had to have started

876
00:37:47,450 --> 00:37:44,640
if there was nothing to hide completely

877
00:37:48,950 --> 00:37:47,460
completely now now if I may play doubles

878
00:37:51,230 --> 00:37:48,960
Advocate very quickly one could say if

879
00:37:53,089 --> 00:37:51,240
this is some Grand paranoia a

880
00:37:55,730 --> 00:37:53,099
paranoia-based intelligence operation

881
00:37:57,650 --> 00:37:55,740
it's possible something was started just

882
00:37:59,569 --> 00:37:57,660
to give the illusion of this of

883
00:38:02,270 --> 00:37:59,579
dialogues like the one we're having now

884
00:38:04,190 --> 00:38:02,280
to further but I don't see what the end

885
00:38:06,650 --> 00:38:04,200
game for that would be

886
00:38:08,870 --> 00:38:06,660
that's that's where I always get caught

887
00:38:11,089 --> 00:38:08,880
on the disinformation hook exactly

888
00:38:14,690 --> 00:38:11,099
brilliant answer no I think I highly

889
00:38:16,550 --> 00:38:14,700
value that and uh appreciate that yeah I

890
00:38:19,609 --> 00:38:16,560
can't think of anything too much more

891
00:38:22,730 --> 00:38:19,619
other than uh quickly the Artemis rocket

892
00:38:25,130 --> 00:38:22,740
do you have any thoughts on that recent

893
00:38:28,069 --> 00:38:25,140
I I'm gonna be honest with you man I um

894
00:38:29,390 --> 00:38:28,079
I wish I could more so for for my

895
00:38:31,490 --> 00:38:29,400
audience and your audience could

896
00:38:33,190 --> 00:38:31,500
elaborate on that I am still in the

897
00:38:35,690 --> 00:38:33,200
process of trying to break down

898
00:38:37,490 --> 00:38:35,700
different in various forms of

899
00:38:39,230 --> 00:38:37,500
interpretations of and actions of what

900
00:38:40,970 --> 00:38:39,240
could have occurred there to tell you

901
00:38:42,230 --> 00:38:40,980
the truth so I don't want to um I'd love

902
00:38:44,089 --> 00:38:42,240
to to tell you the truth I'd love to

903
00:38:46,790 --> 00:38:44,099
come back on to do another you know a

904
00:38:49,609 --> 00:38:46,800
swap cast appearance you name it when I

905
00:38:51,650 --> 00:38:49,619
finally have a a verdict on my end but I

906
00:38:53,510 --> 00:38:51,660
um I don't want to say anything

907
00:38:55,310 --> 00:38:53,520
premature because I at this point I

908
00:38:57,349 --> 00:38:55,320
don't know so I don't want to just Yap

909
00:38:58,910 --> 00:38:57,359
away now that speaks to me because I'm

910
00:39:00,890 --> 00:38:58,920
in the same boat I need to do more

911
00:39:04,430 --> 00:39:00,900
research into it and I'm I'm I'm

912
00:39:05,990 --> 00:39:04,440
thrilled that you are uh you're involved

913
00:39:07,670 --> 00:39:06,000
and interested in a lot of these topics

914
00:39:09,349 --> 00:39:07,680
as well and I'd love to discuss them

915
00:39:11,630 --> 00:39:09,359
again I just appreciate you chatting

916
00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:11,640
with me thank you thank you so much man

917
00:39:14,510 --> 00:39:12,960
it's been an honor and I really

918
00:39:16,910 --> 00:39:14,520
appreciate it and and thank you so much

919
00:39:18,829 --> 00:39:16,920
to both my audience on on my end and of

920
00:39:20,390 --> 00:39:18,839
course to Ryan's audience as well

921
00:39:21,890 --> 00:39:20,400
um I think we agreed synchronistically

922
00:39:24,230 --> 00:39:21,900
we'll put this up for about a week on

923
00:39:26,270 --> 00:39:24,240
our member for both of our members uh uh

924
00:39:28,849 --> 00:39:26,280
sides respectively and then we'll we'll

925
00:39:30,109 --> 00:39:28,859
take it public so we he's a Ryan if you

926
00:39:31,609 --> 00:39:30,119
want to let everyone know on my end

927
00:39:34,190 --> 00:39:31,619
where and how you could be found before

928
00:39:38,349 --> 00:39:34,200
we uh we wrap this up of course uh you

929
00:39:41,270 --> 00:39:38,359
can find hero paranormal on YouTube and

930
00:39:44,150 --> 00:39:41,280
heroparanormal.com is uh where you can

931
00:39:47,150 --> 00:39:44,160
get it on podbean it's also hero

932
00:39:49,430 --> 00:39:47,160
paranormal on patreon it stands for the

933
00:39:51,890 --> 00:39:49,440
hyper anomalous esoteric research

934
00:39:54,470 --> 00:39:51,900
organization podcast but hero for short

935
00:39:57,470 --> 00:39:54,480
and although there's not too much ever

936
00:40:00,230 --> 00:39:57,480
on the space Wolf research website you

937
00:40:02,210 --> 00:40:00,240
can find it on social media where we do

938
00:40:05,170 --> 00:40:02,220
data dumps every now and again or drop

939
00:40:07,609 --> 00:40:05,180
images and that is

940
00:40:10,430 --> 00:40:07,619
spacewolfresearch.com or you can find us

941
00:40:13,010 --> 00:40:10,440
on uh let's see Tick Tock Facebook and

942
00:40:14,870 --> 00:40:13,020
some of the others and um could you also

943
00:40:17,150 --> 00:40:14,880
tell our listeners where they can find

944
00:40:20,349 --> 00:40:17,160
you I know they're very interested

945
00:40:22,970 --> 00:40:20,359
sure thank you so much

946
00:40:24,950 --> 00:40:22,980
patreon.com generation Zed is where we

947
00:40:27,230 --> 00:40:24,960
do the vast majority of our content now

948
00:40:29,450 --> 00:40:27,240
and and I will say as well that we do um

949
00:40:32,390 --> 00:40:29,460
we have a website coming up shortly but

950
00:40:34,670 --> 00:40:32,400
we also use a Dropbox shareable links on

951
00:40:37,190 --> 00:40:34,680
the patreon for the more uh you know I

952
00:40:39,710 --> 00:40:37,200
guess you could say censorship sensor

953
00:40:43,190 --> 00:40:39,720
delicate to based topics um so that's

954
00:40:45,710 --> 00:40:43,200
patreon.com generation Zed as well as at

955
00:40:49,010 --> 00:40:45,720
podcastz on Twitter

956
00:40:50,930 --> 00:40:49,020
um also generation Zed podcast no spaces

957
00:40:54,829 --> 00:40:50,940
no capitals on Instagram and of course

958
00:40:57,230 --> 00:40:54,839
generation Zed podcast on YouTube Apple

959
00:40:59,329 --> 00:40:57,240
podcast Spotify podbean

960
00:41:01,910 --> 00:40:59,339
um we're all there so I I can't thank

961
00:41:03,890 --> 00:41:01,920
you enough as always men truly yeah keep

962
00:41:05,870 --> 00:41:03,900
rocking the awesome perspectives and

963
00:41:08,390 --> 00:41:05,880
philosophies man thank you

964
00:41:11,750 --> 00:41:08,400
thank you so much man

965
00:41:14,329 --> 00:41:11,760
great viewpoints great perspectives what

966
00:41:16,790 --> 00:41:14,339
an example of the evolution of the art

967
00:41:19,010 --> 00:41:16,800
of podcasting he's somebody everybody

968
00:41:21,770 --> 00:41:19,020
should definitely check out I know I

969
00:41:25,190 --> 00:41:21,780
check him out all the time I like the

970
00:41:26,810 --> 00:41:25,200
way he speaks with his guests and he

971
00:41:29,450 --> 00:41:26,820
always

972
00:41:32,089 --> 00:41:29,460
brings it to the line he he goes as far

973
00:41:34,069 --> 00:41:32,099
as he can with any of the subjects that

974
00:41:36,470 --> 00:41:34,079
he covers so definitely check out

975
00:41:38,450 --> 00:41:36,480
generation Zed podcast

976
00:41:40,670 --> 00:41:38,460
definitely a project that's at the top

977
00:41:41,990 --> 00:41:40,680
of my list and I'm just so happy we got

978
00:41:44,569 --> 00:41:42,000
to talk to him and I hope I get to talk

979
00:41:46,730 --> 00:41:44,579
to him again also if you have not

980
00:41:49,430 --> 00:41:46,740
subscribed to our patreon check us out

981
00:41:52,089 --> 00:41:49,440
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982
00:41:54,290 --> 00:41:52,099
more content you can also go to

983
00:41:56,210 --> 00:41:54,300
heroparanormal.com we have a bunch of

984
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985
00:42:02,810 --> 00:41:59,460
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986
00:42:07,790 --> 00:42:02,820
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987
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991
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992
00:42:23,750 --> 00:42:21,060
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993
00:42:25,550 --> 00:42:23,760
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994
00:42:28,550 --> 00:42:25,560
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995
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996
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997
00:42:36,589 --> 00:42:33,960
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998
00:42:43,990 --> 00:42:36,599
skies feet on the ground but don't

999
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,320
all right

1000
00:42:47,330 --> 00:42:53,770
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00:43:01,210 --> 00:42:57,650
come Blast Off In My Time Machine sir I

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